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       There are about 20 million people in the United States with felony records and unemployment rates among the formerly incarcerated is especially high — 27%, a few years ago, according to the Prison Policy Initiative. Compare that with the overall unemployment rate around the same time, which was less than 4%.

       The stigma of a criminal record has long influenced this reality, but with the Great Resignation unfolding before us, the situation for these folks seems to be looking up.

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       Today, we’ll hear from L.A. Times business reporter Don Lee, who has written about the issue, and from someone who’s working to connect formerly incarcerated people with jobs — and who was formerly incarcerated himself.

       Host: Gustavo Arellano

       Guests: L.A. Times business reporter Don Lee and Honest Jobs CEO Harley Blakeman

       More reading:

       Once shunned, people convicted of felonies find more employers open to hiring them

       Tight job market is good for felons, people with disabilities and others who are hard to employ. But can it last?

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